Pindar, Nemean 5.16-17

 

 

“Surely it isn’t better when every truth bares its real face.”

 

οὔ τοι ἅπασα κερδίων

φαίνοισα πρόσωπον ἀλάθει’ ἀτρεκές·

Peisander, fr. 8 (Stobaeus 3.12.6)

 

“It is not shameful to proclaim even a lie publicly to save a life.”

 

οὐ νέμεσις καὶ ψεῦδος ὑπὲρ ψυχῆς ἀγορεύειν.

 

 

Peisander, you ask? Not the Spartan general or the Severan era poet.

(An epic poet, perhaps?)

 

Homer, Odyssey, 11.489-491

 

“I would rather serve as slave to another man

a man with no land and livelihood

than be a king over all the rotted corpses”

 

βουλοίμην κ’ ἐπάρουρος ἐὼν θητευέμεν ἄλλῳ,

ἀνδρὶ παρ’ ἀκλήρῳ, ᾧ μὴ βίοτος πολὺς εἴη,

ἢ πᾶσιν νεκύεσσι καταφθιμένοισιν ἀνάσσειν.

 

Achilles’ words to Odysseus (according, of course, to Odysseus)

 

Paul Thomas’ “Odysseus meets Achilles”

Aeschylus, Fragment 381

 

“There is a good time for lies and god honors it”

 

ψευδῶν δὲ καιρὸν ἔσθ’ ὅπου τιμᾷ θεός

 

Aeschylus was considered old-fashioned and austere, even among the Ancient Athenians!

 

Pindar, Nemean 7.20-21

 

 

“I think that the story of Odysseus’ suffering was exaggerated by sweet-worded Homer”

 

 

ἐγὼ δὲ πλέον’ ἔλπομαι

λόγον ᾿Οδυσσέος ἢ πάθαν

διὰ τὸν ἁδυεπῆ γενέσθ’ ῞Ομηρον·

 

Pindar was a poet of Epinikion.

(but this line doesn’t seem to be about praise… for Homer, at least)

Hesiod, Theogony 27-28

 

ἴδμεν ψεύδεα πολλὰ λέγειν ἐτύμοισιν ὁμοῖα,

ἴδμεν δ’ εὖτ’ ἐθέλωμεν ἀληθέα γηρύσασθαι.

 

 

“We know how to speak many lies that ring of the truth

But we also know how to speak true things when we want to”

 

The Full Text.

 

Hesiod beat Homer in a fight.